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I'd bought this VFR less than an hour before and only had enough time to grab a few photos. This was June 6, 2011 and the VFR was n.o.s. with less than 100 km.Copyright
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The issue of the centre piston on the rear caliper not relieving is now resolved. This would only happen when actuating from the rear brake (that cylinder feeds the rears outer two pistons directly, and feeds centre piston via the front second master cylinder, though the green check and relief valve you see above. I think what was happening is fluid was entering the system through the ball check valve, but could not escape though the tiny relief hole which had blocked after been stood 12 years. The brake initially stuck after cleaning it out as above, it wasn't jammed on, but it wasnt right which was very worrying, I again began the process of confirming and chasing the pressure lock from the caliper back towards the front second master cylinder, but after confirming the pressure released at the rear middle piston banjo, subsequently releasing the rear wheel, I moved on to the PCV under the back right of the fuel tank, only to find I couldn't get it to lock again!? Maybe I just had an air bubble right at the back of the system and I let it out? I did a quick manual bleed, no vacuum/power or check valve, just an 8mm spanner and a bit of pipe, my favourite method to be honest! - The levers are nice and firm now, and after a good blast out, the front brakes are really keen even with light pressure, the back when actuated from the rear still drags for 1/2 second or so but its getting quicker and smoother at releasing. Happy, just been out for an hour, great bike, good find. - Today
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Errrrr......thanks. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I'm not going to challenge yours 😆
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Just so you know, the two posts above are from two of the more knowledgeable members of the forum. Welcome to VFRD.
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Some good voltage checks especially around the ESR, voltage on fuse test points Ignition On and Off, visual inspections for strange wiring, continuity check of Ignition Switch function. Are all good starting points. Download the Service Manual form the forum if you don't have it. May the Force be With You.... Strangest VFR fault I've ever heard of!
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Previous owner left everything to dealers, I showed him some faults he was not aware of when viewing the bike so not much there Will remove the fairings this weekend and start measuring and tracing and checking for cables that aren't part of the loom. Will make some notes as I go as this will be my first time chasing a electrical issue and that wiring map is already making my eyes hurt
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Ok, so the red and blue circled areas have been cleaned up with wd40 and a toothbrush. As both areas do move at the same time when you extend the wax unit. Even with wd40 on the shafts and moving parts they still make a squeaking noise when moving them with my fingers. I refitted the airbox etc and started up, the engine sat at 1k revs for around 10 seconds before going up to 2k revs so this is an improvement and an acceptable amount of time for the wax unit to react? Onto my next concern, the oil in the viewing window. After running the bike up to 105 and the fans coming on, the attached photo is how the oil looks, there's a white layer on top of the brown oil at the bottom. According to the service receipts, this oil and filter was changed 9 months, 3000 miles ago. Does this white layer on top of the oil point to there being a broken water pump seal or something or should I get the bike out for a proper ride and see how the oil is afterwards once it's all been mixed and thru the filter properly?
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6th gen is a little beyond my time, but what is it you want to know? For individual parts you can check the bike-parts.fr website, which has microfiche for both versions. In the old days, French-spec bikes were limited to 100PS or something like that, but I had thought that emissions specs (e.g., catalytic converters) had been standardised since around 2000 for all European models. There are also sometimes minor lighting differences between markets. Sorry I can't be of more help; someone with more direct experience of 6th gens in Europe should know more of the details. Ciao, JZH
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I've got a simple "Sealey" manual tyre changer in the UK (probably the same as many others coming out of the same factory in China!) and it works absolutely okay. However, I bought a separate, nylon enhanced tyre bar off eBay which works better than the original all-metal one the Sealey came with. What made the unit work best for me was to bolt it to the driveway, using stainless steel button head bolts (slathered in anti-seize) threaded into Rawlbolts sunk into the drive. When I'm done I unbolt it and put the bolts back into the holes. So far, so good! Ciao, JZH
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Also not from waaayyyy back, but still pretty far back. I was both exhausted and satisfied after completing a SaddleSore 1000 ride just outside Boulogne, France, in around 1998. I think the photo was originally a 35mm slide (which I was still using--and explains why I have several boxes full of slides and few digital photos from the early days!) The FL was my original 1990, bought new in California. Retired it after 60,000 mi or so, but it could have gone on and on (if I had replaced the cam shaft I broke whilst improperly tightening the cap bolts...). Ciao, JZH
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Mine appeared to be good. The switches are essentially open mechanisms looking up, so all sorts of things will have fallen and washed into them over 22 years. The other way to check this is at the starter harness plug for continuity. You don't need to remove the fairing, it's by the battery under the saddle. A voltmeter will tell you if the circuit is truly open when either of the switches is open, and closed when they are both closed.
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Can you unplug the R/R run the engine, is there any change to the Ignition Switch operation? Grasping at straws a little now. - Suggest accessing the Ignition Switch 4P plug and do some continuity checks confirming good Switch operation. Refer bottom left corner of wiring diagram for Switch Connection Table. I'm struggling to relate your symptoms to the wiring diagram, also struggling with what or how a wiring modification could induce such strange issues with two separate switch functions.
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Bloody hell! Now I'm really confused, this is crazy. Check for Non OEM wiring. Are you able to get any feedback from the previous owner as to wiring changes or anything done electrically to the bike?
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But now I can do you one more - When the engine is not running, the ignition switches off normally, and it doesn't matter if the kill switch is on or not
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Both work fine on their own as far as I can see. When either one of the two are of they give a clean switch to ON, but somehow they need to both be off before the engine stops, So I'm not sure the issue is in the switches, but will check them as well
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RIGHT - This explains part of the Fault. The Ignition Switch is faulty or you have a Red wire to Red/Black wire short, powering Fuses C,D,E, and F. Refer Ignition Switch wiring on previous diagram. But how on earth does activating the Kill Switch then turn Off power to these circuits?? Strange wiring modifications maybe. Important now to check all voltages at the ESR with Ignition ON/OFF and Kill switch 12v Power to ESR Black wire. Note - Engine can Only continue to Run if 12v Power on the all important EFI power wire being the Black/White from the ESR is there when it shouldn't be. eg When Kill Switch activated or Ignition to OFF.
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Second hand vehicles, esp. ones that are over 20 years old - You know you're going to be fixing some stuff. At least she runs smooth and rides like a dream
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Questions.. - Keys off and out - Lights and Instrument panel stays on while engine keeps running - Yip - Its the quickest way at this stage to kill the engine - This I will need to check when I have time to start stripping. I'll remove the front fairing over the weekend and check the power to the engine stop relay as well as try to trace the kill switch cable
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Both my kill switch and ignition key switch were dirty. I had intermittent connectivity through them which caused some random and inopportune shutdowns. It's possible that you could have something else causing continuity in there. Not hard to disassemble and clean the kill switch and clean it up, and fix whatever is going on in there. Ignition key switch is a little bit tricky to get to, but can be done with universal joints and some extensions.
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Never been an issue with all 4 VFR800's I've owned with after market exhausts fitted, 1200 shouldn't be any different. O2 sensors means ECU runs in closed loop so air to fuel ratio is continuously optimized. Think you're worrying about nothing. I'd probably go back to the OEM type airfilter if it was mine! Good Luck with the bike, take it for a good test ride. Check it's maintenance history. Coolant change, brake and clutch fluid replacement - should have had a few of those! Oil and filter, etc. P.s. I'm sure there was a rear wheel drive unit issue recall for the early 1200's. Make sure this has been done.
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Well stock RC45 gears were used by non factory teams as normal with chain sprocket ratio changes only. Factory teams would have specific ratio boxes made to assist if WSBK rules allowed for that back in the day. But AFAIK they never had a cassette gearbox, so would have had to strip engine to change ratios !? Either way the boxes are strong. Stories of damaged gearboxes on RC46 VFR's are rare.
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Note... this is an auto (dct) bike. Bigger rad, and harder to find.
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Off Ebay. From a company based in Australia, but item camevfrom Hongkong.
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I'm kind of flabbergasted to hear multiple stories about the transmission issues here. Im sure theese are Na bikes yes? I have absolutely abused my bike for 30k km with 100% power increase in mind just making Shure of proper shifts before wot. Absolutely no hickups before and now that I'm building a map slowly I have transmission parts in my sump. Can't wait to see this with my own eyes!
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Hello all, I've found a 2010 VFR1200F I'd like to buy. My concern is that the current owner has been running a DAM muffler with a K&N air filter in it. Without a tune on the ECU to compensate. The bike also has a Bazazz Z-Bomb installed. Normally, the combination of a free flowing air filter & more open exhaust would tend to make the engine run lean. I had a similar situation with another bike I bought years ago. The bike was running lean. I could tell by the White deposits on the spark plugs. I'm just concerned that this bike has been running lean & could potentially hurt the valves etc. Looking for some general feedback. The bike has 21K on it. Thanks in advance
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I took a day off from work and also from my bicycle training to take out the Veefalo one last time before the weather turns ugly, supposed to snow the rest of the week and possibly start sticking to the ground along the Colorado Front Range. I took a leisurely pace up hwy 105 toward Morrison and got reacquainted with the bike since its been over a month since I took any sort of twisties on it at all, hwy 105 is a scenic ride along the front range between Denver and Colorado Springs, its mostly easy fast sweepers and lite traffic so its a favorite road of mine when going north. Then I have to negotiate a bit of traffic near Highlands ranch and up hwy 470 into the mountains. I decided to take the Morrison Exit and try either Lookout Mountain or head up Golden Gate Canyon - this time it was Lookout Mountain, I was sort of making it up on the fly as I went along. Lookout Mountain is my old bicycling haunt from my days while I was working at Coors, its a killer ride and all uphill - I don't think I could do it today If I had to, not quite there yet! I saw a whole bunch of riders doing it though and wished I was in shape enough to be there doing it as well. 30 more lbs and I will be able to do it! On this day I would do it on the Veefalo instead.
I took a video from the gateway to the top at the Lookout Mountain State Park, getting past riders, the guy in the green jacket actually pretty much astounded me with how far he had gotten in the short time it took me to set up my camera, some 3 miles at least and up to the gateway from the turn off at hwy 6! Amazing I thought. I took the first two turns slow then got more comfortable as I went up further, till I was doing well, I made some gearing mistakes and took the tight 15mph marked hairpins in the wrong gear so I lugged it a bit on one or two. Still enjoyed it though and then got off at the top and hiked over a rock outcropping for an overview of the road for the pictures below.
Lookout Mountain - Golden Colorado
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Lookout Mountain Park top of the mountain
From there I headed up interstate 70 to Idaho Springs for a beer at the Tommy-knockers brewery, I was the only customer in the joint - slow day for them so they treated me like a king! I got a nice tour of the place sort of impromptu, they made me a nice Pastrami sandwich on rye and with the brown ale it was fantastic. I must say the beer is much better there than in the bottles - its always good at the brewery. I am glad I stopped
Tommy-knockers Brewpub Idaho Springs
Idaho Springs Colorado
Mashtuns and fermenters
Rows of fermenters
I finished my lunch and since the road to Mount Evans is right there I headed up Squaw pass hoping to get in some nice pictures I wasn't expecting what I found, ICE IN ALL THE SHADY PARTS
Icy patches on Squaw Pass definitely taking it easy on that road
There were some section where the ice covered the whole road for 300 yards or so I had to roll through it with my legs out to help keep the bike from sliding and falling over, I took it real slow. A Ford pickup was right behind me so I pulled over to let him pass but the guy was going slower then even I was so I pressed on - in places where I could see I just cut over to the oncoming lane and out of the ice where the sun was shining on the road more, but some places there was not alternative so I just had to go slow, good thing it wasn't slick but rather they tossed some gravel over the worst parts so I had some traction!
I did stop for pictures in all the best spots
Echo Lake at Mount Evans showing off my new plate
Elephant Butte Park and Denver
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Veefalo on Squaw Pass
Juniper Pass
Juniper Pass
Mount Evans
My route A is home B is Tommy-knockers
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Not that it matters and not that I expect anyone had noticed, but to those who sent me "where are you?" I would like to say I am back. Not only that I am officially returning to VFRD after nearly 2 months break but I have also ridden my Hawk last weekend and had FUN! Let me restate that; I had major fun riding! Something I have almost given up on.
Most of you have been riding your whole adult lives and riding is not only a hobby to you, it is part of you. But I started riding three years ago and even though I have encounter some setbacks, till this spring I loved riding with whole my heart. However, I have always considered riding as my hobby. As a hobby which suppose to make my life better, more fun and more rich. Life is too short to do something which we don't fully love.
My love of riding received a first major scar this spring: I lost a friend on the racetrack. He was a total stranger who offered me his help after I lowsided at CMP track last year. I still remember hearing his "Hi, my name is Todd, do you need help?" while I was duct-taping my roadrash from ripped jacket. He helped me straighten up the shifter and we kept in touch. The next time we saw each other was the day he died.
With 9 months delay, I can say that Todd's death shook me more than I have realized. It rooted fear in me which was fueled by seeing and hearing about others getting hurt over and over again. If I was to summarize this year - it would be one big accident report. I became sensitive to every broken bone, every roadrash, every lowside. And even though I did 10 track days this year, I became slower and slower and slower. Suddenly, I have acquired this 'grandma' riding style on the road, frozen with fear that behind every corner there is car standing in my lane, or major sand trap or deer staring at me ... I was crippled with fear not only for me about also for my fellow rider.
So, at the end of this year, I rode more and more by myself. I could not bear the feelings of responsibility for others on the road and my lines were crippled by my own fears. It all culminated this fall at WDGAH. In a freaky accident Love2rideh82crash was taken down by a truck crossing into our lane. I was done. I finished the weekend, locked the VFR into a garage and took a break.
Until the last weekend, I pretended that motorcycles do not exists. As a last instance after 2 months break from riding, I decided to go to CMP track to see if I can still have fun. I also felt like I should go for the memory of Todd. I went and I had fun! I had much more fun than I expected and the most fun on track I can remember. Suddenly the whole track connected into an uninterupted line of turns and I felt one with the bike riding around! I was giggling like a little girl in my helmet and keep on giggling ever since
Granted I was not the fastest one and through out the weekend, I have never exceeded about 60% of my riding abilities, but I had no "oh-shit" nor 'blond' moments. I could have maybe go faster, I could have brake later for the turns and I could have lean further, but I am no Rossi nor Stoner. I decided to ride for fun and I had amazing blast riding well within my comfort zone.
I was proud of myself when, after bandaging Ricks arm, I was able to distance myself and go back to riding without the year-long fear. I did feel bad for him but the feelings were not crippling my lines nor my mind. And when a total stranger came to me and said "Hi, my name is Todd", my heart stopped for a minute though but I suddenly knew that my life went a full circle. I probably will never win MotoGP :idea3: , but I am back! :wheel:
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